I was thinking about going to Church just to check it out and give it a chance since it's been so long since I've been forced to go to church...
how was church JT @ 12:23
ok KC @ 12:23
actually it was horrible 12:23
but i like some of the girls 12:23
i think its stupid 12:24
we had to split into groups and talk about whats bothering us 12:24
and how god has spoken to us this past week 12:24
and this guy was like "oh the last week i realized i can't rely on myself i need god. i can't do anything myself its too much for me" 12:24
what a retard 12:24
and the whole time the mic was fucking up n going in and out 12:24
and they're trying to pray to god to help them with their lives 12:24
uh if god can't even fuckin help with fixing the speakers in his own house how the fuck is he gonna help your life?? 12:25
i think too many people use religion as a crutch--you have to be able to support yourself and have the strength to handle your own problems JT @ 12:27
life sucks sometimes but you have to have the fortitude to deal with the cards you get you know 12:27
ya KC @ 12:28
i like some of the concepts 12:28
like talking about your problems 12:28
and thinking about what u want in life "praying" 12:29
but its not like someone is gonna hand it to you in a gold plate 12:29
its good in the sense that it can teach you some life lessons through stories but you still have to depend on yourslef in this world JT @ 12:29
they preach like just pray and god will do everything KC @ 12:29
thats bs 12:29
absolutely JT@ 12:29
yah these guys r retarded KC @ 12:29
ur responsible for your own life 12:30
from what i know of you you are far too self confident and self reliant to get too far into that JT @ 12:30
when i was younger and more naive i bought into a bit but now i just am not able to 12:30
im too logical i think 12:30
yah KC @ 12:30
like i believe in expressing urself n ur problems to ppl cause it helps YOU figure things out 12:31
but not talking to god as if it's an actual person 12:31
who will solve all your problems 12:31
i was appalled at what they say.. "i need god, i can't live on my own?" wtf 12:31
ya its a crutch and i really dislike that JT @ 12:31
i believe that you can only rely on yourself 12:32
and have to have the confidence to do so 12:32
Then I talked to my Mom and when I mentioned that I went to church she was like why?? and she also told me not to waste my time... "people who are smart and can think for themselves don't buy into that stuff. you're too smart"
Don't get me wrong.. I saw a lot of positive side effects (latent probably though) and I can see why people would allow themselves to get brainwashed... but to think some one/something else has control over your life is irresponsible. YOU make your own decisions and you're responsible for your own actions and thus results. (Christian?) God is for people who can't deal with reality... I know because only in times of GREAT despair where I've tried all else do I think to myself "God?? help?"... but its only because all real solutions have been exhausted and now you turn to fantasy and make believe ("hope") cause you've ran outta options. Then when things turn better (which things almost aways do) people associate that change with the last thing they tried. (classical conditioning, anyone?). Idk.... I'm still not completely sure.... I don't want to be opinionated and rule out ALL forms of religion, who knows, maybe Buddhism or Scientology is more "for me" but since I know nothing about either, I can't rule out all religion. I like to keep an open mind and explore all possibilities.. but for now? I believe there IS something out there... I usually refer to it as the universe.. but Christian "God" and Jesus is bullshit. If this God is willing to "sacrifice" aka let be killed why the fuck would he do anything for you?? Oh wait... he did that cause he loved us so much. Really? Why thanks, how generous. I don't see how a guy who died 2000 years ago really helps me much right now except by maybe giving me a name to whom I can pray to.
haha. k maybe I am being to harsh and maybe someday I may look back and bite my words... but as of now? while I'm still young and full of hope (for actual things) and life hasn't been long enough for me to realize that I didn't get what I wanted out of it yet? I say Religion is bullshit. Just another form of manipulation, control and brainwashing.. what genius came up with it to control the masses? People can find fault in things that are tangible and they can see, hold, touch... Positivism... but idk, I somewhat believe in spirits and ghosts which you can't see at will or touch but at least you can SEE (or think you see) such things. But anyway if you want people to have ultimate faith, give them something abstract, invisible and greater that us and "holy" that they cannot critique. How can you when it doesn't exist?
I shouldn't say "it".. like I said, I believe SOMETHING is out there.. but not one "person" whom we can refer to as him or her. I like the idea that I learned in political philosophy class.. that God is history itself. But I don't know enough about it, or it's opposing theories yet so I won't be all gunho whatever philosophy that is.
Reminds me of elementary school when I convinced this girl that I had invisible pet animals in my desk... by telling her: but of course I'm not even gonna show you cause you can't see them anyway... only
I can see them.
All of you on this page are smart enough to figure out the psychological effects of that line..
"no, no! Show me! I can see them now! Ohhhh it's right there! silly me"
No... stupid you. I knew all along there was no invisible animals. But now, YOU are not quite so sure.
Yeah... it's like that. But on a much larger scale. Silly elementary talk was used to get someone to see invisible animals... nothing more, no hidden intent beyond that. Blind faith and religion on the other hand... gets people to do way more. At least it's (usually) positive stuff.
Oh btw.... now if you want to solidify this belief in my invisible animal (if was a rabbit, in case you were wondering) we add in some other stupid friends and get them ALL to see this rabbit of mine.... who no one can see but are all saying they can... suddenly the bond is even stronger and if you disagree there are severe social consequences with that and they will just continue to say they can see this rabbit that never existed in the first place. You can see how it takes someone who can think for themselves to speak out and be like.... wait a minute... there's no fucking rabbit! There's nothing there but blank space! What are you guys talking about, it's a lie! Most people aren't confident enough to go against the crowd like that.... esp because by now the group is so brainwashed that they won't even believe you if you tell them. And people will fight for what they do believe in.... that same belief that has no real base. Isn't it funny? or sad... depending on how u wanna look at it haha.
anyway... must go to sleep... Krav Maga tomorrow!